"In Amsterdam, Deichsel continues his conversation with Willem Surenhuis. They discuss English scholars and their distaste for Hebrew. One July 5, he takes a trekschuit to Utrecht, mentioning the Domkerk and its funerary monuments. He visits professor van Alphen and briefly describes him. He serves Deichsel's group wine and they discuss the fact that only Catholics who want to convert actually talk to Protestants. Deichsel recalls an anecdote concerning the Queen of Poland's refusal to convert."